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GENTS! I HAVE SOMETHING!

The tech only accomplished what we were able to, but the problem lies in the BIOS set up.
I was still encountering the problem when I found an obscure reference to Ubuntu and AHCI (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AHCI). I thought "Hmmm, I wonder if I have one of those settings/options" and I found it.

FOR:: MSI B250M MORTAR and INTEL CPU with SSD mounted on Motherboard
Enter BIOS
Advanced tab
Integrated Peripherals
Change from "SATA Optane" to "AHCI"
Disable "Optane Genie"

Ooooohhhh, Mortar you sneaky bugger.

The first step is a communication setting between the OS and the HDD that you boot from, from what I can tell.
The second step prevents the BIOS from reverting back to Optane once set.
4 reboots, and they all launch straight into Ubuntu.

As of now, I have JRiver for my music and VLC with bluray plugin for movies. Happy Camper.
All I have to do is move my music files over and set up my Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Youtube accounts and we are done-dee.
 
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Oh I'll be around. I need a programmer that is into audio for my idea to share with you guys.
Ubuntu is fast, clean, no popups, no poop. Takes up very little space. Although I might get myself a copy of windows 7 for my work computer for back up. This windows 10 thing is terrible.

If you want to tell me of a place where I can post a discount code for my speaker kit on this forum, I'd be grateful.
 

wizardfromoz

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My comments highlighted, between yours, Mate. (abridged)

GENTS! I HAVE SOMETHING!

The tech only accomplished what we were able to, but the problem lies in the BIOS set up.

Eureka! Remember what I said about sensing patterns & MSI?

I was still encountering the problem when I found an obscure reference to Ubuntu and AHCI (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AHCI). I thought "Hmmm, I wonder if I have one of those settings/options" and I found it.

Good find, m'man. I'll bookmark and add that to my Wiki/knowledge base. Arch, Debian itself, Red Hat &c are a treasure trove of knowledge that can help with Distros outside of their own family :)

The first step is a communication setting between the OS and the HDD that you boot from, from what I can tell.
The second step prevents the BIOS from reverting back to Optane once set.
4 reboots, and they all launch straight into Ubuntu.

AHCbloodyI ... I was so close, with the mobo. But YOU earn the cigars, my friend!

As of now, I have JRiver for my music and VLC with bluray plugin for movies. Happy Camper. As you should be!
All I have to do is move my music files over and set up my Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Youtube accounts and we are done-dee.

Slow and sure wins the race, ask the Tortoise? Sing out if you need an assist (in a new thread)
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Oh I'll be around. I need a programmer that is into audio for my idea to share with you guys.
Ubuntu is fast, clean, no popups, no poop. Takes up very little space. Although I might get myself a copy of windows 7 for my work computer for back up. This windows 10 thing is terrible.

Windows 7 Pro I found quite good when I was using it, and some of the people at the Windows 7 Forum were almost as friendly as Linux people :rolleyes:

If you want to tell me of a place where I can post a discount code for my speaker kit on this forum, I'd be grateful.

I am not Staff, just a grunt with a passion for Linux and meeting nice people whom get a kick out of win-win with solving problems, whether themselves or with an assist.

That being said, and according to the dictates of your business model/plan - perhaps advertise with this site? I do not know the prices. We have just passed the 6,000 Members mark, and that is a 30% increase since I started here 1st May. Not a huge market in itself, but showing solid growth, and our readership numbers are probably substantial? See what you think.
You will be catching zzz's, well-earned by now. Hope this perks up your breakfast, and we look forward to hearing of your continued adventures with Linux :p

Wizard
 

wizardfromoz

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Just a couple of important notes B4 I 4get...

  1. Go to Terminal and type in and enter the following: sudo ufw enable - it will ask for your password this time and from now on, enter it there will be no movement (security) and it will reward you with a small message that your (Uncomplicated FireWall) is now enabled and a small script will load up and run each time you boot/reboot.
  2. Label and hang on to the install DVD and a USB stick if one works. You may not ever need to chroot, but they are very handy if you need to.
Cheers

Wiz
 

atanere

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FOR:: MSI B250M MORTAR and INTEL CPU with SSD mounted on Motherboard
Enter BIOS
Advanced tab
Integrated Peripherals
Change from "SATA Optane" to "AHCI"
Disable "Optane Genie"
What the F#*% is "SATA Optane"???? And that is the BIOS DEFAULT for that board???? I cannot freakin' imagine a company making a non-standard BIOS default such as that (AHCI is standard). I'm more than a little curious if Windows would install properly too, but if you used the "driver disk" that comes with the board, then perhaps it would have worked. I am flabbergasted. :confused:

But, of course, I am also very happy that you have found a solution. That was all of our aim all along. :cool::D

Not that it matters.... but do you know if you are in UEFI mode, or in Legacy mode?

Cheers
 
Legacy+UEFI
The only options are that one and UEFI.
I don't know how to tell the difference.
I just know that the setting works. So that's cool.
Thanks for the firewall tip.
The optane setting from what I read, is a setting that Ms Intel and amd are pushing to make more of a monopoly of the computer market. I guess it's to limit the kinds of operating systems that will work with the hardware. Kind of like putting a L shaped terminal on a standard 3 prong power cord. It won't fit in the wall unless you change a piece of the hardware. That's what the guy at the computer shop emailed me this morning.
 

atanere

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If you can show us the output from this terminal command:

Code:
sudo fdisk -l  (That's a lower case L)
I read up a little on "Optane".... this is an example of technology slipping further away from me. Intel Optane is a memory chip and offers hard disk acceleration.... make more faster. This should not be the default. I'm just sayin'.
 

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I'm having the giggles today. I just read the edited version of Cody's #135, I had liked it when he just said he was taking it to the shop, but the edited additions ... say whatta whatta whatta?? Sounds like real fun (not).

But seriously, the best is yet to come, and may be of interest to both Cody and to The Viewers, both current and future.

During my research for Cody's prob, I had passed through a couple of websites, dating from 2014 to current, that mentioned that MSI was not very Linux friendly historically, but was improving over the last two years. I had it in mind, that if we came up dry, we might go in search of MSI Gamers whom use Linux? Gamers know everything about everything in all sorts of obscure areas, where we might think that only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

So my giggles started on my 2nd coffee reading Homer Simpson doing his Fred Flintstone a few Posts up. I then Googled up "linux msi motherboard gamer" and guess what I found?

Michael Larabel is Phoronix , well regarded in Linux circles for their TestSuite used for benchmarking hardware and software performance.

2nd on my search results was this article https://www.back2gaming.com/guides/motherboard-linux-compatibility-list/

...it includes a table showing models from ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte and MSI which work with Linux OOTB (out of the box). Not surprisingly, Cody's was not one of them, but a Tomahawk with an AMD chip was.

So Cody and others might like to take note of Phoronix information when making their purchasing decisions.

Still, all's well that ends well, we have a new recruit to Linux, we look forward to hearing of his adventures, and we'll be here if he has need of us should he have questions ... in another thread :D

Let's put this baby to bed;)

Wizard
 

chezler

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I may have missed something, but it looks like the problem stems from the SSD being a PCIE card. A lot of Windows installs have trouble with that.

I'm just reading a lot in this forum in preparation for my move to Linux. My motherboard is unique in that Secure Boot can not be disabled. So I am looking at many problems I may run into.

Great thread. Makes me glad I stumbled up on this forum.

Charlie
 
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atanere

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I may have missed something, but it looks like the problem stems from the SSD being a PCIE card. A lot of Windows installs have trouble with that.

I'm just reading a lot in this forum in preparation for my move to Linux. My motherboard is unique in that Secure Boot can not be disabled. So I am looking at many problems I may run into.

Great thread. Makes me glad I stumbled up on this forum.

Charlie
Hi Charlie, and welcome to the site! Don't worry about UEFI and Secure Boot.... there are a growing number of Linux distros that can deal with those issues now. If you need any help, just open up a new thread in the Getting Started forum (or other if it seems more appropriate) and ask your question(s)... we will assist as best as we can.

Cheers
 

chezler

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Hi Charlie, and welcome to the site! Don't worry about UEFI and Secure Boot.... there are a growing number of Linux distros that can deal with those issues now. If you need any help, just open up a new thread in the Getting Started forum (or other if it seems more appropriate) and ask your question(s)... we will assist as best as we can.

Cheers
Thanks for the response, atanere. I am going to do just as you suggest as soon as I have explored some more posts on my concerns.

The real reason for my post in this thread was the concern for the op's headaches on install.
Many home builders have had problems getting Windows to install and/or boot when using a PCIE SSD as opposed to a standard hard drive or SSD. I thought that may be why he was having so much trouble. Windows would see it as an external drive which is a no-no for a boot drive.

Glad to see he got up and running.
 



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