clipboard / copy / paste

[MikeRocor]

@Egzoset In another thread, you said:

The one annoying thing that feels most bugging for an old DOS user painfully converted to Windows (sort of late) resides in combinations keys or shortcuts like [ Shift ] + [ Insert ] (to paste) being replaced by [ Ctrl ] + [ v ], etc.

I use [Shift] +[Insert ] all the time, though, TBH, I don't remember using it in DOS.

It doesn't always work - and I think we have a couple of different "clipboards" in play...

if I highlight text with the mouse in a terminal window, I can paste it into the same or a different terminal window with shift-insert (or with a middle click of the mouse), but not (or at least not always), for instance, into a graphical window. Using shift-insert in the URL bar of firefox pastes in the last thing I copied with ctrl-c, not the last thing I highlighted in a terminal window while using shift insert in a terminal window pastes in the last thing I highlighted in a terminal window.

Highlighting text in a graphical window (like a browser) apparently does not automatically copy it to any clipboard. Ctrl-v seems to have no effect in a terminal window.

FWIW, I'm using aterm 1.00.01 for terminal windows and firefoc 123.0 for browser.

The copy/paste oddities are particularly annoying for me because the text editor I use has a "console" mode (runs in the console or in a terminal window) -and- a native GUI mode (runs in it's own window) and pasting behaves differently between the two (in addition to the editor's own emacs-like ctrl-w/ctrl-y functionality)

I guess that's all not really phrased as a General Linux "Question", but any authoritative explanation would be welcome.

 

[Egzoset]

Well sorry if it's not "authoritative", my favourite text editor used to be GEdit until Y2K i think, it was close to 64 KB in size i think, and perhaps i can upload it somewhere convenient to you if i dare search around hard enough, i think...

 

[CaffeineAddict]

To make CTRL + V work in terminal simply edit your terminal keybinding options.
Provided your terminal does support editing keybinding it will work fine.

My KDE Konsole has keybinding options and setting CTRL+V as well as CTRL+BACKSPACE was the first thing to do and ti works fine.

 

[MikeRocor]

By "authoritative", I just meant "coming from someone who actually knows the details and causes" (unlike myself).

Also, I didn't mean to imply that I'm in any way dissatisfied with my current text editor - just using it as a convenient example of the copy/paste issue. I think my fingers would go on strike if I tried to switch to a new editor.

 

[Egzoset]

By "authoritative", I just meant "coming from someone who actually knows the details and causes"...

It seems i don't neither. This sort of gave me some sudden surge of nostalgia so i reached for my precious DOS backup CD and was forced to observe i didn't even remember the program's name correctly, which is actually 'G-Edit' (v1.0), where the "G" stands for Gazelle Systems. Dated 1991... Even the key combinations don't correspond to what i though i had in memory, so it must have been about 'NotePad' instead. Go figure, all i can tell is that each change of software from DOS to Windows to Linux felt frustrating in a durable manner that contributed to inspire me the « Fix once, Break many » slogan. Well, lets admit these days i still need to refrain from returning to old instinctive gestures as the consequences can prove most demotivating. Nothing, really nothing lasts forever!

 

[Condobloke]

fwiw

my favourite text editor used to be GEdit

Gedit is still available....it is included in the Linux Mint repository....it is installed on my PC....I run Linux Mint 21.3
Gedit runs like a charm. It now consumes a whopping 1.8mb. It has numerous plug ins to extend its use.

 

[MikeRocor]

It seems i don't neither. This sort of gave me some sudden surge of nostalgia so i reached for my precious DOS backup CD and was forced to observe i didn't even remember the program's name correctly, which is actually 'G-Edit' (v1.0), where the "G" stands for Gazelle Systems. Dated 1991... Even the key combinations don't correspond to what i though i had in memory, so it must have been about 'NotePad' instead. Go figure, all i can tell is that each change of software from DOS to Windows to Linux felt frustrating in a durable manner that contributed to inspire me the « Fix once, Break many » slogan. Well, lets admit these days i still need to refrain from returning to old instinctive gestures as the consequences can prove most demotivating. Nothing, really nothing lasts forever!

Dang it! I just installed "gedit" (the gnome one), trying to remember if I'd tried it out before. If I did, I'd have hated it.

When I go to my old DOS "backup", I end up with... the same text editor.

I've been using the same text editor, albeit different versions of it, since 1985. That old 1985 version still works on Windows 7 (and even, I think, on Win10) and probably under dosbox on Linux - though I -have- grown quite fond of the features in the newer versions (I guess, I'm just spoiled).

 

[Egzoset]

Gedit is still available...

It's another, not like mine at all, not even sharing the same key combinations. Besides, yours says « development started in 1998 »...

When I go to my old DOS "backup", I end up with... the same text editor.

From Gazelle Systems? I doubt it, i have the Linux 'gedit' too, but maybe if you tell me where to upload you'll have an opportunity to compare 1st hand!

 

[MikeRocor]

Sorry... by "the same text editor" I meant the "same one I use every day on Linux". Lugaru's "epsilon programmer's editor".

Not really that excited about g-edit (nor "gedit" either) unless it has a really phenomenal feature set. It would take a lot to overcome the features and my (almost forty years of) muscle memory of epsilon.

 

[Egzoset]

Not really that excited about g-edit...

Me neither, but it was my favourite at the time, as it could hold 5 simultaneous large pages for a grand total of 1 MB...

You might have liked it as it offered an hex feature too, plus nice macro capability.

 

[MikeRocor]

Wow! Even with the help of google It's kind of hard to find much more than a mention of Gazelle Systems and G-edit.

Somewhat surprisingly (to me, at least), it's just as hard to find much more than a simple mention of epsilon other than on the publisher's web site (it's still around, with a 64 bit version released in 2020, updated last month).

Lots of info and reviews of IDEs and crap that runs in a web browser.

 

[Egzoset]

M'yeah, gone with the wind! So dependable & reliable & powerful yet very lightweight at the time, now forgotten.