We shall be here. We'll see what we can do to advise, and try to help make the transition as painless as possible...I'm lucky I landed on this one first then!
I'm looking forward to getting started once the new laptop arrives
Mike.
Solved Can anyone recommend an old laptop?
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Mike.
theLegionWithin
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if you're up for it, plug your laptop's serial number in to https://partsurfer.hp.com/ and then look on ebay to see if there are parts available - cpu/fan/ram/ssd/etc. repairing a laptop can be tricky though - some models are easier to disassemble than others.
if you go the replacement computer route instead, I have had good luck with refurbished lenovo thinkpads - my hp 9480m died last summer so I replaced it with a refurbished lenovo t470, cost around $150 or so (I had looked at a few thift stores/2nd hand shops in the area but didnt see anything I liked so I used amazon instead).
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Well, the new laptop arrived... and on the very same day my old one seems to have broken. I've dragged my old barely-working smartphone out of retirement to get online. This wasn't the plan! I was hoping to set the new one up in a relaxed fashion, calmly learning as I go! Now I'm not sure what to do. I was going to do a clean install and delete the Windows. Now I'm wondering whether it would be better to have it alongside Windows until I learn what I'm doing. I was in the middle of my tax return too, really inconvenient timing!
I'm thinking Mint Cinnamon is what I'm going to go for.
I'm thinking Mint Cinnamon is what I'm going to go for.
Brickwizard
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Brickwizard
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@theLegionWithin
Kindly read the compleat thread before commenting, you will have found the OP has got a replacement fan for her HP but not got round to swapping it out, also that she has decided to buy [and has now received] a refurbished Dell 5490
Kindly read the compleat thread before commenting, you will have found the OP has got a replacement fan for her HP but not got round to swapping it out, also that she has decided to buy [and has now received] a refurbished Dell 5490
Brickwizard
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Oh, and yes until you're fully happy using Linux you can install alongside windows in a duel boot system
Modern Linux isn't all that complicated - unless you want it to be.
I'd bite the bullet and just install your distro of choice, kicking Windows to the curb.
(After checking the live environment to make sure your hardware works properly.)
I'd bite the bullet and just install your distro of choice, kicking Windows to the curb.
(After checking the live environment to make sure your hardware works properly.)
OP
Beachcomber
Member
I've managed to get the old one working again for the moment, thank goodness, and retrieve what I was working on earlier. It's overheating I think.
I can't seem to get online with the new laptop using my ethernet cable, so I'm going to get a cat5 or cat6 as mentioned earlier in the thread. I just hope it works with this extension I use, as I don't want to have to buy a new one of those as well.
I can't seem to get online with the new laptop using my ethernet cable, so I'm going to get a cat5 or cat6 as mentioned earlier in the thread. I just hope it works with this extension I use, as I don't want to have to buy a new one of those as well.
Brickwizard
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A range extender, you will still need a patch lead to go from the output of the router to one extender, and another to connect the second extender to the laptop, if they are short runs you can use whatever Ethernet cables you have you may have ,
if you have wi-fi then there should not be a problem as standard this modal has an intel wi-fi and the drivers are in the kernel, have you installed Linux yet or just trying it?
if you have wi-fi then there should not be a problem as standard this modal has an intel wi-fi and the drivers are in the kernel, have you installed Linux yet or just trying it?
OP
Beachcomber
Member
I don't have wifi where I use my laptop - it's in a garden cabin a long way from the router. I've found these range extenders have worked very well to solve the problem. The first one is plugged in next to the router, and the other is next to where my laptop is outside. Both have short ethernet cables.
I've run the troubleshooter and am getting 'Ethernet doesn't have a valid IP configuration'. And 'unidentified network - no internet'. I'm googling, and there seems to be a couple of things I can try. But I'll leave that till tomorrow I think. Maybe it's a Microsoft problem, and won't be an issue when I download Linux? I haven't got that far yet. It's Friday the 13th after all, so it's also waiting for tomorrow!
I've run the troubleshooter and am getting 'Ethernet doesn't have a valid IP configuration'. And 'unidentified network - no internet'. I'm googling, and there seems to be a couple of things I can try. But I'll leave that till tomorrow I think. Maybe it's a Microsoft problem, and won't be an issue when I download Linux? I haven't got that far yet. It's Friday the 13th after all, so it's also waiting for tomorrow!
Brickwizard
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yes it must be getting cold in your neck of the woods, have a Dalclagie and pop off to bed till tomorrow, apart from shopping mid morning I should be around all day
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Ok, first daft question of the day...
Using my old laptop (which seems to be working today!), I've downloaded Mint Cinnamon, done the integrity and authenticity checks (all ok), and put it onto a USB stick using Etcher.
I've booted into it (sorry if I'm using the wrong terms for things like this!) on the new laptop, but before starting the install I'd like to get my internet connection sorted so I can do the multimedia codecs bit. It still won't connect using the cable, so I've moved into the house to use the wifi. But there is no option for wifi under the internet connection menu in the bottom right corner. I've got 'wired', but no 'wireless' option. I think this is a driver problem? ... which I need an internet connection to fix...
Unless it's not a driver problem, and I'm missing something obvious? I'm going to try again with the wire...
Using my old laptop (which seems to be working today!), I've downloaded Mint Cinnamon, done the integrity and authenticity checks (all ok), and put it onto a USB stick using Etcher.
I've booted into it (sorry if I'm using the wrong terms for things like this!) on the new laptop, but before starting the install I'd like to get my internet connection sorted so I can do the multimedia codecs bit. It still won't connect using the cable, so I've moved into the house to use the wifi. But there is no option for wifi under the internet connection menu in the bottom right corner. I've got 'wired', but no 'wireless' option. I think this is a driver problem? ... which I need an internet connection to fix...
Unless it's not a driver problem, and I'm missing something obvious? I'm going to try again with the wire...
Brickwizard
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ok so you have Mint on a pen drive, boot it up to test mode, open a terminal [black box bottom left with $_ on it] and type in
inxi -Nn
and enter you should get something like this.. [as its the same model as mine it should be the same]
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15d7
IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie:
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24fd
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
bus-ID: 1-7:4 chip-ID: 8087:0a2b
inxi -Nn
and enter you should get something like this.. [as its the same model as mine it should be the same]
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15d7
IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie:
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24fd
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
bus-ID: 1-7:4 chip-ID: 8087:0a2b
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Right, it's installed and running on the new laptop. I got online using the router ethernet cable. I've tried looking in the Driver Manager for wifi drivers, but it just says I don't need any drivers and nothing comes up.
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Oops @Brickwizard , sorry - we posted at the same time there. And sorry, I've gone ahead of you and just installed it!
Brickwizard
Well-Known Member
ok then run inxi -Fnx and copy.paste back the result
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Ok, I'll do that in a minute. I'm typing from my old laptop, the new one's doing an update now. I haven't been online with it yet (think I need to download a browser first?), so need to work that out before I can copy/paste anything here.
Brickwizard
Well-Known Member
The browser is Firefox, the link is normally on the bottom left panel and is orange with a u shape in it.
if not open mint menu [lm far bottom left] look for internet click on and select Firefox
if not open mint menu [lm far bottom left] look for internet click on and select Firefox
OP
Beachcomber
Member
Aha, just spotted it!
OP
Beachcomber
Member
System:
Host: carrie-Latitude-5490 Kernel: 6.8.0-50-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.9 Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma
base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5490 v: N/A
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0DH2HV v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
v: 1.37.0 date: 09/05/2024
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 44.5 Wh (98.9%) condition: 45.0/68.0 Wh (66.1%)
volts: 8.8 min: 7.6 model: BYD DELL KCM8298 status: charging
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-8350U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Coffee Lake rev: A cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 634 high: 800 min/max: 400/3600 cores: 1: 400 2: 400
3: 799 4: 800 5: 400 6: 700 7: 775 8: 800 bogomips: 30399
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-9.5 bus-ID: 00:02.0
Device-2: Realtek Integrated Webcam_HD driver: uvcvideo type: USB
bus-ID: 1-5:2
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast platforms:
active: x11,surfaceless,device inactive: gbm,wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.9-0ubuntu0.3
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (KBL
GT2)
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-50-generic status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 98:e7:43:75:5a:cf
Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: N/A bus-ID: 02:00.0
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
bus-ID: 1-7:3
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: 50:E0:85:118:33
bt-v: 4.2 lmp-v: 8
RAID:
Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci
v: 3.0 bus-ID: 00:17.0
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 10.4 GiB (2.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD PM871b M.2 2280 512GB
size: 476.94 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 467.89 GiB used: 10.39 GiB (2.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C pch: 41.5 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Memory: total: 16 GiB available: 15.48 GiB used: 2.15 GiB (13.9%)
Processes: 275 Uptime: 8m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
Packages: 1948 Compilers: gcc: 13.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 inxi: 3.3.34
Host: carrie-Latitude-5490 Kernel: 6.8.0-50-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 13.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.9 Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma
base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5490 v: N/A
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0DH2HV v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
v: 1.37.0 date: 09/05/2024
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 44.5 Wh (98.9%) condition: 45.0/68.0 Wh (66.1%)
volts: 8.8 min: 7.6 model: BYD DELL KCM8298 status: charging
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-8350U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Coffee Lake rev: A cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 634 high: 800 min/max: 400/3600 cores: 1: 400 2: 400
3: 799 4: 800 5: 400 6: 700 7: 775 8: 800 bogomips: 30399
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-9.5 bus-ID: 00:02.0
Device-2: Realtek Integrated Webcam_HD driver: uvcvideo type: USB
bus-ID: 1-5:2
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast platforms:
active: x11,surfaceless,device inactive: gbm,wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.9-0ubuntu0.3
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (KBL
GT2)
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-50-generic status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 98:e7:43:75:5a:cf
Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: N/A bus-ID: 02:00.0
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
bus-ID: 1-7:3
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: 50:E0:85:11
8:33bt-v: 4.2 lmp-v: 8
RAID:
Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci
v: 3.0 bus-ID: 00:17.0
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 10.4 GiB (2.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD PM871b M.2 2280 512GB
size: 476.94 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 467.89 GiB used: 10.39 GiB (2.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C pch: 41.5 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Memory: total: 16 GiB available: 15.48 GiB used: 2.15 GiB (13.9%)
Processes: 275 Uptime: 8m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
Packages: 1948 Compilers: gcc: 13.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 inxi: 3.3.34
