Are you using linux? If yes, why?



captain-sensible

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it was the "add on" software costs that made me look at Linux e.g Office Suite and it also coincided with a Desktop build. I had no O.S on a new build so thought i would have nothing to loose putting lInux on it.

When i found that i could get Linux up and it had a free word processor that was the start.

Then i started playing with websites anyone remember cuteFTP it was a client to easily connect from your P.C and upload files to the server. Then i saw gFTP
 
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I needed an alternative to Windows XP as it was reaching EOL and tried out Linux and here I am.

I also use old computers and certain Linux distros give new life to old computers and old computer hardware.

Linux encourages installing Linux distros on as many different computers as I want and most of the time Linux installs and updates and works OOTB.

You just can't beat all of that for free and I donate some cash for the Linux distros I download an iso file from to help defray the cost.

Linux works for me OOTB most of the time without being a PITA and I like that.
 
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Why copy software illegally if you can get it for free ?
Its something i asked myself when last in Ghana . My empirical observation is that 98% of users are using cloned Windows including a lecturer laptop that also had cloned (stolen) Windows. here is there thinking "why bother to learn something" when i can get Windows for free. Microsoft engaged a "Country manager" but not quite sure success rate of collecting revenue. If Microsoft push to hard maybe they are frightened of Cloned Windows users going straight to linux. In Indonesia quite some time back they were pro-active and closed down internet cafes using Cloned Windows. This in part led to "Zencafe" distro based on Zenwalk Linux which had quite an input from Indonesian coders
 

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Using GNU/Linux exclusively. Have been since 2009. Why?
Burnt out on Windoze with the 2000 version. Had to reinstall so many times while at a GIS shop I grew sick of it; had to tweak it to make it work in ways that I was told were illegal and swore to myself I would not, ever again.

Bottom Line -- it's Free (both as in 'Free Beer' and as in 'Liberty');
all it takes is a little learning, which is a challenge (and I need challenges in Life); I cherish Freedom above all but the Creator, who sets us free in more ways than I can fathom if we but let hin and use him in the opposite sense that humans use humans.
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Debian holdouts from systemd (like devuan, antiX, BunsenLabs and others)* and Slackware (add BSD if you must) are the last of the old-school distros that are truly free and have not sold out in one way or another. (Gnu is Not Unix founder insists his is not Linux, either, or I could name him here, as well!)

Eight to ten years ago, at a linux fest site, I met one of the original developers of openSUSE. He told me in not so many words but without a doubt that MS was 'secretly' purchasing a share of his beloved distribution. I believed himn and never saw him again. No surprise, a recent thread.

*It's a shame about Ian Murdoch, isn't it? And the only good mint is peppermint (buth that will change,too, now that its founder is deceased, as well)!
 

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I started looking at Linux after reading about the privacy and security concerns about Windows 10. I also discovered that there are several Linux distros that work well on older computers, so now there is no need of throwing away good equipment because the increasing requirements of the latest Windows offerings. After using Linux (even a lightweight distro), I have found it to be a much better OS than Windows. I have another computer with Windows 10, but most of the time I use this old Dell laptop that originally ran Windows Vista but now runs Linux. I prefer it to the newer W10 laptop.
 

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I started using Linux somewhere in the 1992-1994 timeframe, partly because even back then I was NOT a fan of Windows (TM, at least in this context) or Microsoft. And I'd been using Unix/Solaris/so_forth for a while anyway, so wanted something better than DOS.

I liked it so much I co-founded the Phoenix Linux User's group.

I'm still using it. In fact, except for the 3 Macbooks here that I don't really use, all my computers run Linux. Mint, if you must know.
 

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I've been using Linux and MacOs for years now. I've always used Macs and my 'daily drivers' and Linux systems as sandboxes.
I've always been very attracted to the ethos behind the open source movement and I like that Linux is heavily cusomizable and I think fun to use.
So now I've got several Linux systems that I'm using for programming and sysadmin hobbyist stuff and I'm using a Macbook 17" from 2009 as my daily driver (web surfing, emai, etc.), however when Macbook either dies or becomes so obsolete that it's unusable as a MacOs system, I'll either replace it with a linux laptop or put linux on it.
 

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the open source movement is great maybe like Communist ideology in theory. I looked at it recently and what OS are available that are truly free. I should be going to Ghana where use of Linux is extremely limited and use of cloned Windows is endemic(my flight got cancelled again so you will have to put up with me a little longer) ;I thought it might be fun to see if I could get involved thinking Slackware would be the obvious choice for me .
Now that meant I had to establish and clarify where I stood with Slackware gnu/linux against microsoft cloned WIndows in terms of a moral argument . This is a reply back from Richard Stallman :

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Running an unauthorized copy of Windows still gives Microsoft power
over you. So I say: an unauthorized copy of Windows is a very bad
thing -- almost as bad as an authorized copy ;-{.

Slackware GNU/Linux has two flaws.
1. It contains nonfree programs.
See https://gnu.org/distros/.

2. The developers call it "Slackware Linux" which is unfair to the GNU Project.
See https://gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html and
https://gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html, plus the history in
.


So i had a look at all of them booted them live; https://www.pureos.net/ looked a likely argument though the mention of Gnome Desktop prompted a thought (old ?)

Anyway no joy with wifi; from my limited investigation i think there are no free Intel ucode wifi firmware . Also on first sight pureOS not actively maintained . So the pragmatic reality is that maybe commercial endeavor stays ahead and with the times and opensource is lagging behind. I wonder if Mr V just thought i want an effective OS , so i can live with some none free software ?

Old documentation used to state Slackware gnu/Linux but currently on slackware.com as r.m.s sates header is of 2020 " The Slackware Linux Project"
 

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To me it isn't just about Software Freedom - it is also about caring about the quality of the software as well which to me is equally important. Unfortunately we live in a GNU/Linux or Linux world where a lot of wireless cards won't work without non-free firmware. Hardware does exist but I need my wireless to work.

Developers of various Distros put out releases that are half baked and have some serious bugs. Leaving to the user to have to work out how to fix them - a developers job.

Case in point Debian a buggy Debian Buster with a broken su. I and others I have come across wasted hours trying to work out why something simple like dpkg -i, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata no longer worked. Thankfully there are people like Fsmithred to help you (Developer of Refracta). Sorry To rant but Debian devs have got real sloppy lately.

Anyway why do I use Linux - because of Distros like Refracta (Devuan made beautiful) - using Chimaera version at the moment which is very fast with 5.6 kernel. So I still love Linux.
 
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captain-sensible

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yes i agree; in Ghana they don't even care if the software is stolen as long as it works (my empirical observation since 2005 )

I've got even less patience than you; thus after one update of ubuntu/debian that was half baked on software which messed my system I just switched to Slackware via a few other distro :

Simply Mephis -> Zenwalk -> slackware

Mr V takes his time but i can't remember a time that user expereince became worse with slackware as long as I read up docs and new the risks .
 

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I agree with both of you, captain-sensible and darry1966, on all counts!

Being a cynic, at times, I find it interesting that both 'buntu and debian have become buggy distros. This, after Ian Murdoch was killed by SF police and the head of the 'buntus expressed an interest in getting ahold of Debian much like MS got a hold on SUSE.
Coincidences make me suspicious, especially of greedy capitalists.
(My rant for the morning here at GMT -6).

@khedger -- welcome! Have seen you at a different forum, I believe.

@darry1966 -- thanks for the heads-up re: Miyo. I am using and liking it. Will check out Refracta. Usually use antiX but may change.

@captain-sensible -- Stallman doesn't get his due. Even at Slackware practicality overrides FOSS purity, especially regarding wireless (which has become much easier in debian distros than it was in the past).

I started out with ubuntu 9.04, but abandoned it after Lucid Lynx. Things like Zorin began popping up and I wonder how much its parent distro gets 'under the table!'

Philosophical differences, one might say. They influence our preferences and sometimes make me a little intolerant. (See the 'Funny' thread)

May your day go well, friends!
 

darry1966

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With regards to wireless there needs to be a greater effort to produce totally free firmware but while companies that produce cards that are designed to only work with windows with proprietary stuff then that is like shoveling --------------------- up hill.
 


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