Initial 'treatment' of those souls new to Linux will either boost numbers for this site ...or sound the death knell. Below quotes are from another help site (which shall remain nameless) (from the opening poster) ""Ok this is way to complicated im going to buy myself a linux mint usb from osdisc. (REPLY).....and another one bites the dust..... No 'staying-power', some folks! Ah, dearie me.... (*shrug*) In addition to the self serving/lackadaisical/cgaf attitude from the responder, the OP (opening poster) was simply allowed/encouraged to just walk out the door His opening post was succinct...to the point.....and a later post (same day ) actually detailed what he wanted very clearly .....and yet this guy.......who we would usually regard as a "walk up start" (presents very few problems as he actually knows what he wants)......was dithered around to the point where he pulled the plug and exited. Please Linux org.......dont go down this path.