All Linux Mint ISOs Are Bad??

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I am attempting to dual boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint 19 Mate and I am trying to use Microsoft Checksum to verify my ISO and so far every single one has had a different hash outcome than the original hash on the official website. I obviously don't have Linux installed so I cannot perform the instructions given on https://linuxmint.com/verify.php so I tried to use Microsoft Checksum. Is the Microsoft one a bad way of checking hash? Is there a better way? Or are the files truly compromised?
 


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I've actually been using Rufus to create my bootable usb. Would I be able to add another file to the stick without having the installer mess up? I was thinking about doing that but I didn't want to screw up the install and make it bad because I had another file in there.
 

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These are good questions, but no. Not as it stands with Rufus.

Rufus is a Windows only burning solution, but like many burning solutions (and this includes burning music, movies &c) the solution effectively allocates the entire disk space to the burn. So even though your Linux .iso might only take up 1.5GB, and your stick might have capacity for 8GB, you will find there is zero space left.

Was there something you wished to add?

Wizard
 

atanere

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I am attempting to dual boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint 19 Mate and I am trying to use Microsoft Checksum to verify my ISO and so far every single one has had a different hash outcome than the original hash on the official website. I obviously don't have Linux installed so I cannot perform the instructions given on https://linuxmint.com/verify.php so I tried to use Microsoft Checksum. Is the Microsoft one a bad way of checking hash? Is there a better way? Or are the files truly compromised?
If the Microsoft program I found on the web is the same as yours, it only checks MD5 and SHA1 hashes. The hash provided by Linux Mint is SHA256. The program above that Wizard linked to works great and should give you the correct checksum values. Other distros do provide MD5 sums too, so you just have to watch what you are checking.

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Why not just put it and on the black screen where you are given the choices use the bottom one to check the media, then Mint will do that for you and tell you if anything is missing. If not then you can just go ahead and start the duel install after the reboot - personally I wouldn't trust another method and this ways saves time
 
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Don't know about, "all ISOs being bad," but I do know, that for about the last 5 or 6 months, or maybe even longer, Linux Mint 19 (Sarah) has been locking up on me, or freezing up on me, and the only thing that I can do, to get the HP Notebook to run, or to get it to shut down, or to get it to reboot, is to press and hold, the power button, for a few seconds, until the Notebook shuts off, then I can press the power button to get the Notebook to run. Anyway, I may go to another version of Linux...I used to use Mandriva, and I liked that very much, but of course that's no longer supported, and I also have tried many others, like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ultimate (Gamers Edition), even a Linux version of a Media Center, like Microsoft had, where they have a lady, in a video, telling, or showing you, how to set it up, and I liked that version, but that version was mainly designed to operate security cameras, and things like that...Anyway, I have used many versions of Linux, but not sure what version to try using now, and yes, I do run the updates, not a complaint, just an observation...:D
Sarah was 18! Tara is 19 - Sarah is supported until April 2021and if you have had problems with it you could have easily updated to Serena, or Sonya or Sylvia any of the 18 series, which would have made sense to do so. By the way 19 was even in beta 6 months ago. Your observations, don't hold up on that, sorry. So I am lost at what the point is that you are trying to make. If you wanted help with the freezing then you could have come on here and people would have helped you.
Sorry, but I can think that this has helped Default the original poster at all as apart from the opening sentence it is way off the topic that they were asking for help with
 

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Don't know about, "all ISOs being bad," but I do know, that for about the last 5 or 6 months, or maybe even longer, Linux Mint 19 (Sarah) has been locking up on me, or freezing up on me, and the only thing that I can do, to get the HP Notebook to run, or to get it to shut down, or to get it to reboot, is to press and hold, the power button, for a few seconds, until the Notebook shuts off, then I can press the power button to get the Notebook to run. Anyway, I may go to another version of Linux...I used to use Mandriva, and I liked that very much, but of course that's no longer supported, and I also have tried many others, like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ultimate (Gamers Edition), even a Linux version of a Media Center, like Microsoft had, where they have a lady, in a video, telling, or showing you, how to set it up, and I liked that version, but that version was mainly designed to operate security cameras, and things like that...Anyway, I have used many versions of Linux, but not sure what version to try using now, and yes, I do run the updates, not a complaint, just an observation...:D
Mint was locking up on me and i did the same thing. Hold the power button until it turns off. Theennnnn my harddrive corrupted so it is currently stuck in "repairing windows" on 11% so i now have to find a way to fix that. Jeez nothing is working out for me..
 
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Mint was locking up on me and i did the same thing. Hold the power button until it turns off. Theennnnn my harddrive corrupted so it is currently stuck in "repairing windows" on 11% so i now have to find a way to fix that. Jeez nothing is working out for me..
That might not be a bad thing, let it complete so then if windows works okay afterwards you'd know that it is not a hardware problem. Freezing can be a sign that the hard drive is on it's way out. They have a limited life span. If windows completes then you could try putting in the Mint media you have and then booting to it where you have the option to do a repair, I think it is the 3rd on the list to do.
If windows can't repair then you either have a software problem that is preventing it from doing so, or as I've said a hard ware problem. If it does then, by far the easiest solution would be to download a fresh ISO of Mint and create it menu USB creator ,- you can do this in Mint if your version loads and after backing up do a fresh install that way it will clear the problems - others might have more information for you, but this is the way I would go about things after my experiences with both Windows (since NT) and now with Mint - let us know how you get on
 

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That might not be a bad thing, let it complete so then if windows works okay afterwards you'd know that it is not a hardware problem. Freezing can be a sign that the hard drive is on it's way out. They have a limited life span. If windows completes then you could try putting in the Mint media you have and then booting to it where you have the option to do a repair, I think it is the 3rd on the list to do.
If windows can't repair then you either have a software problem that is preventing it from doing so, or as I've said a hard ware problem. If it does then, by far the easiest solution would be to download a fresh ISO of Mint and create it menu USB creator ,- you can do this in Mint if your version loads and after backing up do a fresh install that way it will clear the problems - others might have more information for you, but this is the way I would go about things after my experiences with both Windows (since NT) and now with Mint - let us know how you get on
You think my windows disk repair is stuck at 11% because of my hard drive? Man thats tough.. :/
 
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You think my windows disk repair is stuck at 11% because of my hard drive? Man thats tough.. :/
It could be, but first you have to check out all the options - it is a matter of going through them all one by one, before jumping to any conclusion. If it is sticking at 11% then what I would do is a complete power down, take out the power lead and the battery and wait 5 mins - this might reset things. Then the next step is to reboot, firstly into Mint I would suggest and if it does that okay, then it is a problem with windows. Or you could just reboot to windows and see if picks up where it left off or completes - Windows repairs are notorious for taking anything up to an hour to complete so you might have to just leave it running. If you can get into windows on your C do a check and repair on it and see if that completes - Don't try and rush things as it is easy to get lost if you do. I have had many so called experts recommend things without thinking of the simple things. You have to try and trace back including doing a system restore which might help. If after you've done all these thing then you need to look at other things BUT ONLY AFTER YOU DONE THEM OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS FOR YOURSELF. IF NOTHING WORKS AFTER YOU DONE THESE THINGS THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES. Sorry I have put this in Caps as I don't want you to get lost and try something that you really don't need to do -Sometimes we get so involved that we can't see the wood for the trees and we've all done that when really it was such an easy fix one way or another.
Good luck and let us know how you get on
 

Condobloke

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@ _Default,
'In the Wars' is probably understating the mental and emotional anguish you feel at the moment. My commiserations. I know the feeling.

I have to ask....what is your intention/idea etc...behind dual booting windows 10 with Lm19 mate...?
Is there something on win 10 that you must have the use of...that perhaps you are not sure of having on LM19 ..?...

perhaps something like msft word/office..?...or are you very new to Linux and are maybe just 'making sure' that you are ok in the new linux operating system

My apologies if these questions have been asked and answered elsewhere.
 

wizardfromoz

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Still playing catch up, and you may have learned some of this yourself. But others may benefit as well

Not like any special file, but maybe the full iso file to check it with the real linux checksum
Yes you can, and this is not widely documented, I do not know why.

In the Live environment, any changes or updates you make are maintained only for the session you are in, and when you reboot, they are lost. Unless you have added what is known as Persistence to your burned iso, and that can only be done with USB, not with DVD.

That being so, and nevertheless, you can without Persistence in place, still access your Hard Drive and copy across the installation .iso from your Downloads folder or wherever it resides. You can then run integrity checks on it from there, using Linux software.

If you prefer the GUI point and click approach, you could install GtkHash from your Distro's repositories

Code:
sudo apt-get install gtkhash
I have a Tute on this here https://www.linux.org/threads/gtkhash-–-hashing-out-the-basics.4430/#post-45629

An internet connection will first need to be established for the above method, to install from the Repos.

If you prefer to use the command line, you can call up Terminal with Ctrl-Alt-t or find it in Menu or perhaps on a Panel. Then

Code:
sha256sum linuxmint-19-mate-64bit.iso
I have used my Mint MATE above as I don't have a Cinnamon on board yet - substitute the exact name of your own .iso.

When you have the long checksum available from one of the above methods, you can either hop into Firefox, go to the Linux Mint site and compare with theirs, or else just copy and paste the sum into an address bar in Firefox and press enter, and all will be revealed.

This part of Linux Mints site

https://linuxmint.com/verify.php

... is worth the read, and to follow it. You could use its steps in the above scenario.

Likewise, you can do the same with GPG key verification.

In Australia, we have nearly equivalent sayings "to come a gutser" or "to come a cropper" ... Google them :p

One way to come a gutser with the above is if you are away from where your source .iso is. We had an example recently where a Member took a stick over to her girlfriend's house to introduce her to Linux. So she would not be able to use the above without access to copy the downloaded .iso.

Cheers

Wizard
 

techsolveprac

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All Linux Mint ISO are not bad. However,
You can verify Integrity and Authenticity of Linux Mint ISO in following 7 steps:
Step 1: Download ISO Image File
Step 2: Download SHA256 Sum and Signing files
Step 3: Prepare your system to check Linux Mint ISO
Step 4: Open Application to execute verification commands to check Linux Mint ISO
Step 5: Run SHA256 sum generation command
Step 6: Check Linux Mint ISO File’s Integrity
Step 7: Check Linux Mint ISO File’s Authenticity

I would like to suggest an article which mentions details of each of the above mentioned steps to check Linux Mint ISO file for Integrity and Authenticity for latest version Linux Mint 19.1 'Tessa'
 

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