Wired Internet Connection Problems

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  1. ksjenka

    ksjenka New Member

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    Hello! I don't lose hope that someone will help me, I'm almost a complete newbie to Linux (after Windows), so don't be hard on me. A few days ago I bought a new laptop - Acer Aspire v3-571g intel-corei3-3110M. I tried to install different linux distros: pear os, elementary os luna and ubuntu 13.04 finally. Anyway, in all cases it says "Connected" to my wired internet, but actually the internet isn't working. I literally don't know what should I to. On my old Acer laptop(on which I'm currently typing) installed Ubuntu 13.04 and the internet works like a charm. Maybe I have to install some ethernet drivers? Please, help me.


    I made some outputs from my laptop when the internet cable is plugged in to my laptop, maybe it'll somehow help to solve my problem; see above:

    Code:
    ifconfig
    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr b8:88:e3:a3:f6:25 
              UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
              Interrupt:16
     
     
    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
              RX packets:218 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:218 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
              RX bytes:18634 (18.6 KB)  TX bytes:18634 (18.6 KB)
     
     
    wlan0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 68:94:23:1e:e2:51 
              UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
     
     
    sudo lshw -C network
    [sudo] password for ksenia:
      *-network             
          description: Ethernet interface
          product: NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
          vendor: Broadcom Corporation
          physical id: 0
          bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
          logical name: eth0
          version: 10
          serial: b8:88:e3:a3:f6:25
          capacity: 1Gbit/s
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
          configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.128 firmware=sb latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
          resources: irq:16 memory:b3430000-b343ffff memory:b3440000-b344ffff memory:b3450000-b34507ff
      *-network
          description: Wireless interface
          product: AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
          vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
          physical id: 0
          bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
          logical name: wlan0
          version: 01
          serial: 68:94:23:1e:e2:51
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical wireless
          configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath9k driverversion=3.8.0-19-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
          resources: irq:17 memory:b3500000-b357ffff memory:9fc00000-9fc0ffff
     
     
     
     
    sudo lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
    00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)
    00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
    00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
    00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev c4)
    00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM77 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
    00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 640M] (rev a1)
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
    02:00.1 SD Host controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM57765 Memory Card Reader (rev 10)
    02:00.2 System peripheral: Broadcom Corporation Device 16be (rev 10)
    02:00.3 System peripheral: Broadcom Corporation Device 16bf (rev 10)
    03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
     
     
    lspci -nn | grep 0200
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:16b5] (rev 10)
    

    Thanks to all who are helping people here[​IMG]
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    http://havingnoclue.wordpress.com/2...er-aspire-5750-6872-laptop-with-ubuntu-10-04/
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    To be honest (I read the article) - I don't know how to make the whole installation, I need details. Assume I downloaded that zip file in "Downloads" folder (now it is tg3-3.129d), extracted it, then what? Where do I have to put it? Readme.txt says:
    What directory do I have to create and where to put it?

    What is src?

    I'm really sorry that I'm such a noob. Please show me how to do everything step-by-step. Sorry, again:(
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    1) The download will be in your Home. You can create a folder (still in your Home) and call it anything you want e.g. Fred. It's only to contain the extracted files. Sometimes when you extract files, without creating a folder, the files spread around the place.

    2) cd means change directory. src should be a directory
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    1. In HOME I created "Ethernet" directory where I extracted linux-3.129d.zip
    2. I extracted tg3-3.129d.tar.gz in Ethernet/Sever/Linux/Driver folder and there appeared "tg3-3.129d" folder
    3. Opened a terminal and did the following:

    Code:
    ksenia@ksenia-Aspire-V3-571G:~$ cd Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/
    ksenia@ksenia-Aspire-V3-571G:~/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver$ cd tg3-3.129d
    ksenia@ksenia-Aspire-V3-571G:~/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d$ make
    sh makeflags.sh /lib/modules/3.8.0-19-generic/build  > tg3_flags.h
    make -C /lib/modules/3.8.0-19-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d modules
    make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic'
      CC [M]  /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.o
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:288:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘__devinitdata’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:11377:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_timer_init’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14766:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_eeprom_size’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14800:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_nvram_size’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14833:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14884:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_nvram_get_pagesize’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14911:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5752_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14952:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5755_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15008:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5787_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15046:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5761_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15121:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5906_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15128:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_57780_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15201:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5717_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15279:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_5720_nvram_info’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15421:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_nvram_init’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15492:52: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘__devinitdata’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15556:42: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_lookup_by_subsys’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15570:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_eeprom_hw_cfg’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15783:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_ape_otp_read’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15816:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_issue_otp_command’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15839:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_otp_phycfg’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15865:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_phy_init_link_config’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:15892:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_phy_probe’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16011:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_vpd’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16132:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_fw_img_is_valid’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16145:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_bc_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16197:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_hwsb_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16213:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_sb_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16268:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_mgmtfw_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16320:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_probe_ncsi’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16336:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_dash_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16361:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_otp_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16386:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_read_fw_ver’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16442:35: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_find_peer’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16470:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_detect_asic_rev’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16579:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_invariants’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17436:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_get_device_address’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17517:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_calc_dma_bndry’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17658:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_do_test_dma’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17747:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_test_dma’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17943:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_init_bufmgr_config’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:17999:25: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_phy_string’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18038:25: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_bus_string’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18074:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_init_coal’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18105:22: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_init_one’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18625:23: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘tg3_remove_one’
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18939:12: error: ‘tg3_init_one’ undeclared here (not in a function)
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18940:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘__devexit_p’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:18940:25: error: ‘tg3_remove_one’ undeclared here (not in a function)
    In file included from /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.h:13:0,
                    from /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:118:
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3_compat.h:969:14: warning: ‘print_mac’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:548:12: warning: ‘tg3_read32’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:579:12: warning: ‘tg3_read_indirect_reg32’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:621:12: warning: ‘tg3_read_indirect_mbox’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:674:12: warning: ‘tg3_read32_mbox_5906’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:679:13: warning: ‘tg3_write32_mbox_5906’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:747:13: warning: ‘tg3_ape_lock_init’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:1623:12: warning: ‘tg3_mdio_init’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:1739:13: warning: ‘tg3_mdio_fini’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:11246:13: warning: ‘tg3_timer’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:11436:13: warning: ‘tg3_reset_task’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:14524:27: warning: ‘tg3_ethtool_ops’ defined but not used [-Wunused-variable]
    /home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.c:16558:13: warning: ‘tg3_10_100_only_device’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
    cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
    make[2]: *** [/home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d/tg3.o] Error 1
    make[1]: *** [_module_/home/ksenia/Ethernet/Server/Linux/Driver/tg3-3.129d] Error 2
    make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic'
    make: *** [default] Error 2
    
    As you can see there was some errors - did I do something wrong??
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    I tried this, without success, I am hopeless now. what to do??:(:(
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    @ryanvade The BCM57785 is the Ethernet card. The wifi is an Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01).
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    OMG! What do I have to do?!
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    I think I might be tempted to use a USB wifi dongle that works out-of-the-box. To get around this problem. NOT just any old USB wifi dongle, but one which is guaranteed to work out-of-the-box, has no drivers and well, just works.

    With the advent of the Raspberry Pi $35 computer there are quite a few tiny ones around e.g. http://www.micahcarrick.com/raspberry-pi-wifi.html
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    Thanks to all of you!:) I solved the problem - I just had to change the MAC-address on my new laptop!
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    don't know how to mark this topic "Solved", please, moderators do this for me:)
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    It would be interesting to know how you can to the solution...

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