Microsoft Responds to Linux Lock-Out Claims

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  1. Jim Laughlan

    Jim Laughlan Active Member

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    http://ostatic.com/blog/microsoft-responds-to-linux-lock-out-claims

    "At the end of the day, the customer is in control of their PC. Microsoft’s philosophy is to provide customers with the best experience first, and allow them to make decisions themselves...For the enthusiast who wants to run older operating systems, the option is there to allow you to make that decision."

    Good! Then don't lock out Linux then...Duh!
    Talk about monopolistic practices.... Sheesh :mad:

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  2. GrumpyOldMan

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    Apparently, Microsoft is using an alternate definition of "best experience"
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  3. rstanley

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    If their O/S is the only one able to be installed, then theirs is the "Best experience" by default! ;^)
    How is the latest version of Debian, Fedora, Mint, or any other Linux Distro, an "Older Operating System"??? Balmer and his minions are obviously delusional while at the same time relocating furniture! ;^)
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    Lol... All Linux distros are safer and most more up-to-date than any Windows version. MS doesn't roll.
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  5. ryanvade

    ryanvade Administrator Staff Member Staff Writer

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    ha. Square Windows...:p
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  6. Arthur2

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    Guess who owns the authentication cert for uefi! MICROSOFT!!
    So what does that mean in practice? since Microsoft own the private key to authenticate uefi.(which is intended to replace the conventional BIOS) it means esentially that when the BIOS is no longer available . microsoft can shut down the ENTIRE computing infrastructure at a stroke simply by revoking the certificate needed to authenticate the uefi component on your system. hence. whether you run windows. Linux or whatever. eventually Microsoft will be in a position to hold the world to ransom UNLESS an open alternative is available.

    Just hope I am wrong. but i have a gut feelin i am not.;-(
    Last edited: May 31, 2014
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  7. Jim Laughlan

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    Good point to consider Arthur!
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  8. ryanvade

    ryanvade Administrator Staff Member Staff Writer

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    There are a few opensource UEFIs being developed. And the Linux foundation is working on a Secure Boot proof boot loader. But yeah, MS is controlling this. Not good.
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    Until the US Court System or the EU puts their foot down and propoerly calls their actions, an attempted Monopoly! (Which it is!)
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    ryanvade Administrator Staff Member Staff Writer

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    Here is a link if anyone is curious.
    http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news...oundation-uefi-secure-boot-system-open-source
    and
    https://www.linuxfoundation.org/sites/main/files/lf_uefi_secure_boot_open_platforms.pdf
    2 years old now...not sure how progress is coming.
    Technically Ubuntu, RHEL, and Fedora all support booting on Secure Boot systems.

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  11. Jim Laughlan

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  13. Jim Laughlan

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    Scrabble!
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    The reason linux is better is because of two words: Community... Support...
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    @rstanley Its not just a case of either /or but BOTH need to act in concert. and lets not leave Apple or Google out of the equasion either.. also. be aware there is a gradual move towards web based computeing on the back of HTML5 which recently has been the subject of some controversy over the proposed insertion of DRM into an otherwise open standard. worrying wouldnt you say?
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    "Either/or but BOTH..." ??? I miss your point. I reviewed my comments but don't see what I said. :confused:
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    My bad, I should have replied directly to your post. sorry forthe confusion.;-)

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